build 0.7.5.4720 is hardcoding subtitles into the video

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build 0.7.5.4720 is hardcoding subtitles into the video

Post by dumpy » Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:16 pm

build 0.7.5.4720 is hard-coding subtitles into the video even when subtitles are disabled in the subtitles options.

For the record: I clean installed 4720 and chose the option to reset all settings. Stlll encoding subtitles into the picture.

Is there an option or anything to turn this off?

Thanks

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Re: build 0.7.5.4720 is hardcoding subtitles into the video

Post by stanley » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:43 am

What type of subtitle?
When things work together, things work.

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Re: build 0.7.5.4720 is hardcoding subtitles into the video

Post by dumpy » Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:31 am

Anime episodes I've cut from a DVD with dvdshrink that happen to contain the subtitles that were on the DVD.
Build 4712 didn't do this (with the exact same files and settings), only build 4720 does it and I can't get it to stop.
I was using mencoder as the source (because mplayer is gone for some reason (why is that, by the way?)) and it gives me hard coded subtitles in the video.
FFmpeg doesn't give me subtitles, but FFmpeg doesn't allow me to change the aspect ratio to 16:9, which is rather important.

I've got no problem going back to 4712, for now, but I thought I should let you know.

Thanks for your time.

Here's the specs on my file that I'm trying to convert to H264. The original is straight from a DVD:

Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 1.02 GiB
Duration : 21mn 34s
Overall bit rate : 6 756 Kbps

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=13
Duration : 21mn 34s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 6 430 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 8 500 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.621
Stream size : 993 MiB (95%)

Audio
ID : 128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Duration : 21mn 34s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Video delay : -75ms
Stream size : 29.6 MiB (3%)

Text #1
ID : 32 (0x20)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding

Text #2
ID : 33 (0x21)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding

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Re: build 0.7.5.4720 is hardcoding subtitles into the video

Post by meRobs » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:50 pm

Dumpy:
since I had trouble getting Aspect Ratios with the version of FFmpeg EXE used in build 4720 (see viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9452) I copied over the EXE from build 4640 (in the Codec sub-folder) and all is then OK.

Suggest you try this version of FFmpeg and see if it handles the subtitles correctly.
This might help diagnose the problem!
Have you checked out the Tips & Guides for MediaCoder? Try: http://forum.mediacoderhq.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8061
Also, get older builds at: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MediaCoder/old-versions#download

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Re: build 0.7.5.4720 is hardcoding subtitles into the video

Post by JEskandari » Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:23 am

Well it's a solution but not very elegant
Go to

Files>Settings>Video Sources>Mencoder>ExtraOptions

and then add this

-sid 99

now as usually there is not 99 subtitle in a video then Mencoder add no subtitle
you also can use the same trick with Mplayer

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Re: build 0.7.5.4720 is hardcoding subtitles into the video

Post by dumpy » Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:38 am

Thanks for the idea, I'll try it out.

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I'm still curious if mplayer will be coming back as an option for video source. I use it most of the time. It would be nice if someone could let me know.
Of course, while this is a temporary work around, it would still be nice if this subtitle problem could be looked into for future versions.

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Re: build 0.7.5.4720 is hardcoding subtitles into the video

Post by niebling » Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:35 am

yes. This works. I also add disable subtitles and set id to 99 under subtitles tab.

Thanks.

:arrow: Hopefully this will be fixed in the next version. I am using build 4740 x 64bit. :evil:

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Re: build 0.7.5.4720 is hardcoding subtitles into the video

Post by meRobs » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:35 pm

For the 32bit version, this feature was fixed by build 4730.
Because of this Topic, I added a test for Disable Rendering in my regular test Reporting (see: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=9611).
Have you checked out the Tips & Guides for MediaCoder? Try: http://forum.mediacoderhq.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8061
Also, get older builds at: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MediaCoder/old-versions#download

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