WMV > AVI = 1000fps O_o

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WMV > AVI = 1000fps O_o

Post by Hiei-YYH » Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:02 pm

i don't know if i'm doing something wrong...

i have a wmv format video encoded with WMV9, i want to reencode to avi, i tried the "Stream Copy", everything goes well, but the video change the fps to 1000 (i even tried change to 23.976 -which is the original fps- in the PICTURE tab, but no luck, the video is always converted with 1000fps -_-

any help?


here is the summary:

File Details (【アニメ】【DVD】 これが私の御主人様 第03話 「ロリコンで制服マニアで隠し撮りマニアのギャルゲーマニア」 (704x396.WMV9.Q93).wmv)
Container: WM
Duration: 1451.9 sec(s)
Video: WMV3
Bitrate: 1427 Kbps
Resolution: 704x396
Audio: 162
Bitrate: 249 Kbps
Sample Rate: 48000 Hz
Channel(s): 2

TARGET FORMAT
Container: AVI
Video: Stream Copy
Bit Rate: 8192 Kbps
Estimated File Size: 1417 MB

==
".\mplayer\mencoder.exe" "$(SourceFile)" -alang jpn -aid 1 -ofps 23.976 -passlogfile "$(TempDir)mcpass5860.log" -ovc copy -nosound -o "$(DestFile)"
==
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Post by stanley » Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:08 pm

You should not use stream copy, as I believe AVI container can't properly handle stream of Windows Media Video.

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Post by Hiei-YYH » Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:38 pm

stanley wrote:You should not use stream copy, as I believe AVI container can't properly handle stream of Windows Media Video.
The problem is, if i choose matroska or mp4, it give me a error :(
mpg works, but i don't want old crap mpg :roll: there is not a way to force in matroska container or mp4? (i use stream copy because i don't want any quality loss before i reencode in virtualdub)

all i want is to reencode to h264, but h264 codec don't support 2pass encode (at least the vwf one) changing fps (and i need, because i can't encode at 1000fps XD this is insane), gives a error about 1st pass has more frames than 2nd pass...

anyway, very good software ;)
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Post by itspete » Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:27 pm

Hiei-YYH wrote:
stanley wrote:You should not use stream copy, as I believe AVI container can't properly handle stream of Windows Media Video.
The problem is, if i choose matroska or mp4, it give me a error :(
mpg works, but i don't want old crap mpg :roll: there is not a way to force in matroska container or mp4? (i use stream copy because i don't want any quality loss before i reencode in virtualdub)

all i want is to reencode to h264, but h264 codec don't support 2pass encode (at least the vwf one) changing fps (and i need, because i can't encode at 1000fps XD this is insane), gives a error about 1st pass has more frames than 2nd pass...

anyway, very good software ;)
Ever thought of looking at the Encoder/Decoder it'self and setting it there?
What AVI result are you looking for?
3 types: Intel H264, VSSH and AVC1.

I suggest using Intel H264 as the Video Output Container.
Video Stream: Intel H264
Audio MPEG2 Audio Layer3
1024kbps, Screen size, Frames Per Second, Intel H.264
Audio: 96kbps, 2 channels, MPG2 layer3

AVI
Screen Size: 320x240, 352x240, 352x288, 384x288, 480x480, 480x576
640x368, 640x480, 704x480, 704x576, 720x480, 720x576, 1280x720
Frame Per Second: 11.988, 12.5, 14.985, 15, 23.98, 25, 29.97, 30

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Post by Hiei-YYH » Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:24 am

itspete wrote: What AVI result are you looking for?
I just want the video without loss of quality, that's why Stream Copy, the audio i convert later to ogg audio which for me is better than crap mp3

MC converts well with AVI, but has this problem of 1000fps, MPG works normal, and the others give errors



EDITED AGAIN: looks like is not because the update, the video bacame 1000fps if i put 3pass, 2pass works well :~~ but if 2pass, the video loss A LOT of quality
Last edited by Hiei-YYH on Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:43 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post by Hiei-YYH » Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:41 am

well, i have another video (avi, wmv9, 120FPS). i want only change the current fps to 23.976, but i have a problem on this video too

File Details ((18禁アニメ) (無修正) 閉鎖病院 後編 (DVD 640x480 WMV9)[CRC 9ABB].avi)
Container: AVI
Duration: 1725.1 sec(s)
Video: WMV3
Bitrate: 667 Kbps
Resolution: 640x480
Audio: 55
Bitrate: 192 Kbps
Sample Rate: 48000 Hz
Channel(s): 2

TARGET FORMAT
Container: AVI
Video: Stream Copy
Bit Rate: 8192 Kbps
Estimated File Size: 1684 MB

==
".\mplayer\mencoder.exe" "$(SourceFile)" -alang jpn -aid 1 -ofps 23.976 -ovc copy -nosound -o "$(DestFile)"
==

MC converts, the video changes the fps to 23.976, very good, but the video gets corrupted in various places...

i don't know why stream copy doesn't work well with wmv9, if the source is the same :/
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Post by itspete » Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:55 am

Hiei-YYH wrote:well, i have another video (avi, wmv9, 120FPS). i want only change the current fps to 23.976, but i have a problem on this video too

File Details ((18禁アニメ) (無修正) 閉鎖病院 後編 (DVD 640x480 WMV9)[CRC 9ABB].avi)
Container: AVI
Duration: 1725.1 sec(s)
Video: WMV3
Bitrate: 667 Kbps
Resolution: 640x480
Audio: 55
Bitrate: 192 Kbps
Sample Rate: 48000 Hz
Channel(s): 2

TARGET FORMAT
Container: AVI
Video: Stream Copy
Bit Rate: 8192 Kbps
Estimated File Size: 1684 MB

==
".\mplayer\mencoder.exe" "$(SourceFile)" -alang jpn -aid 1 -ofps 23.976 -ovc copy -nosound -o "$(DestFile)"
==

MC converts, the video changes the fps to 23.976, very good, but the video gets corrupted in various places...

i don't know why stream copy doesn't work well with wmv9, if the source is the same :/
Hi.
Just some thoughts.
Video fps 23.976? Why not 23.970? The difference could be why the
frames fall down. Actually I think MediaCoder is wrong here. It should be
23.98 not 23.970 I'll ask Stanley to change this. (see AVI in Tips and
Guides for correct settings).
What about the Container- OPTION? What have you set that to?
Have you tried the Container as LAVF with OPTION set?

I'll have another look and see if I can solve this.
Regards
Charles (I am no expert, just willing to learn) :roll:

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Post by stanley » Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:28 pm

You shouldn't use stream copy if you want to change the FPS. Use Xvid or H.264 as video format.

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Post by bxf » Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:18 am

stanley wrote:You should not use stream copy, as I believe AVI container can't properly handle stream of Windows Media Video.
Just for your information, Stanley, I've used VirtualDub-MPEG2 many times to simply do a Direct Stream Copy of WMV files to AVIs. Works perfectly. There is no transcodong involved, as everything happens very fast and you can see it is just doing a copy.

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