Build 5130 Audio Gain not working; AE 4700 does

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Build 5130 Audio Gain not working; AE 4700 does

Post by ysbinns » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:24 am

I tried to use the Audio Gain feature in build 5130. It failed. So I downloaded the MediaCoder Audio edition to see what it was all about. I see it's build 4700. I tried using the Audio Gain feature and discovered that it worked! Does this mean the Audio Gain works in the regular full version MediaCoder build 4700? Where can I find build 4700?

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Re: Build 5130 Audio Gain not working; AE 4700 does

Post by ysbinns » Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:10 am

ysbinns wrote:I tried to use the Audio Gain feature in build 5130. It failed. So I downloaded the MediaCoder Audio edition to see what it was all about. I see it's build 4700. I tried using the Audio Gain feature and discovered that it worked! Does this mean the Audio Gain works in the regular full version MediaCoder build 4700? Where can I find build 4700?
Answered my own question. Found full build 4700 but Audio Gain did not work.

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Re: Build 5130 Audio Gain not working; AE 4700 does

Post by stanley » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:43 pm

Which audio source did you use?
When things work together, things work.

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Re: Build 5130 Audio Gain not working; AE 4700 does

Post by ysbinns » Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:53 am

I tested my file again to get the details. Sorry for the long reply but I wanted to make sure you fully understand my process and steps. Container is MP4.

Movie file is WildHogs.mkv. MediaInfo is:

General
Unique ID : 222941216968953997363738699697067932285 (0xA7B8EAA3AAD0D0BD908B5001E8583A7D)
Complete name : L:\MKV\WildHogs_HD.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 1.19 GiB
Duration : 1h 39mn
Overall bit rate : 1 704 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2011-03-26 05:33:37
Writing application : mkvmerge v4.6.0 ('Still Crazy After All These Years') built on Mar 10 2011 02:50:32
Writing library : libebml v1.2.0 + libmatroska v1.1.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 39mn
Bit rate : 1 315 Kbps
Width : 1 024 pixels
Height : 432 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.124
Stream size : 917 MiB (75%)
Writing library : x264 core 114 r1913 5fd3dce
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:-2:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=4 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=8 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=24 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=16 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=1315 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=2:1.00

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1h 39mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 274 MiB (23%)

Test #1:

MediaCoder 5130 settings:

Video Tab:
Enabled
Format: Copy Video
Encoder: Auto Select
Source: Auto Select

Audio Tab:
Enabled
Format: LC-AAC
Encoder: Nero Encoder
Source: Auto Select

Nero Encoder Tab:
Rate Mode: Target Bitrate
Bitrate: 128

Sound Tab:
Channels: Stereo
Normalized: Disabled
Gain: 60 db

Test #1 Results:
No progress bar display. Statistics window, Task stats only shows Time Elapsed and Raw Audio Data (1095mb). No change in sound format. No change in volume. Made an MP4 file.

MediaInfo (Audio portion):
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : ac-3
Duration : 1h 39mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 274 MiB (22%)

Test #2:

MediaCoder 5130 settings:

Video Tab:
Not Enabled

Audio Tab:
Enabled
Format: LC-AAC
Encoder: Nero Encoder
Source: Auto Select

Nero Encoder Tab:
Rate Mode: Target Bitrate
Bitrate: 128

Sound Tab:
Channels: Stereo
Normalized: Disabled
Gain: 60 db

Test #2 Results:
Progress bar, Current Task works. Statistics window is populated except for video info. Sound format is changed. Volume is greatly increased. Made an M4A file.

MediaInfo (Audio portion):
Audio
ID : 1
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 1h 39mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 168 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 90.9 MiB (99%)
Encoded date : UTC 2011-04-14 15:40:25
Tagged date : UTC 2011-04-14 15:44:44

Conclusion:
It appears that working with Audio Only the audio gain function and audio transcoding function works just like the Audio Edition program. It appears that enabling the Video and Audio then nothing works with the audio functions.

Again, sorry about the length of the reply.

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Re: Build 5130 Audio Gain not working; AE 4700 does

Post by ysbinns » Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:06 am

Update to my previous post. I reran Test #1 but with one change:

Test #3:
Video Tab:
Format: H.264 (NOT Copy Video)

Test #3 Results:
Progress bars, Current Task and Total Tasks, worked. State field was constantly updated showing changing percentage. Statistics window was fully populated. Sound format is changed to LC-AAC 2ch. Volume was greatly increased. Made an MP4 file.

This test gave me the results I expected to get when I used Format: Copy Video. Both the original MKV file and the Test #3 MP4 file indicate they are H.264 when played in VLC. MediaInfo does show that the Video Bitrate was changed from 1315kbps to 1000kbps (the setting that was default for H.264) so the program did transcode the video portion as well as the audio portion.

Maybe a bug in the Copy Video function ???

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